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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 14:29:12 GMT -5
I don't know if you get credit for saying Bryz was getting traded. now if you called the team accurately, THEN you get credit.  Id give Eric credit for calling it...that Bryz can be had for a decent price (4th rder!) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 14:34:30 GMT -5
everyone is going for 4th rounders.
except for Fasth. He'll cost you a 3rd and a 5th
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Post by Tbone (Kelowna) on Mar 4, 2014 15:36:15 GMT -5
then again Brodeur does have a NTC so he could be calling the shots on this one, since it was his decision to open up the idea of trading him, what choice do the Devils have? Must've been Brodeur's big ego that stopped Minny from picking him up - he probably wanted to be the designated starter which Minny couldn't guarantee - Bryz is a total wild card though, could be lights out hot or stone cold - but low risk pickup for a 4th rounder |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 17:21:32 GMT -5
holy schnikey! Lou back to Florida.
This makes no sense, there is going to have to be some follow up deals for Vancouver and Florida unless Lou has just completely given up on a cup.
I can't see Vancouver running with Lack/Markstrom for the rest of the season either.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 19:36:15 GMT -5
then again Brodeur does have a NTC so he could be calling the shots on this one, since it was his decision to open up the idea of trading him, what choice do the Devils have? Must've been Brodeur's big ego that stopped Minny from picking him up - he probably wanted to be the designated starter which Minny couldn't guarantee - Bryz is a total wild card though, could be lights out hot or stone cold - but low risk pickup for a 4th rounder EMMM EMMM... as the Bryzgalov owner, I know that Fletcher is very familiar with Bryz from his days in ANA. Contrary to what Mr. Rockets is saying, Bryz is NOT a wild card to Fletcher; but the exact opposite. He knows him and trusts him. That why he traded for him instead of Halak. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2014 20:20:24 GMT -5
Honestly, I find the trade deadline more exciting that the first 3 rounds of the playoffs...
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Post by Tbone (Kelowna) on Mar 4, 2014 22:55:27 GMT -5
Luongo trade made perfect sense - why tie up so much cap in a position that no longer seems to be a difference maker - always cheap and up-and-coming options available and seemingly easily replaceable - look at how cheaply goalies could be had today.
Now if only the 'Nucks can fully turn the page and rid of all the key assets from the '11 cup run, can start anew without all the bad memories and baggage - should've done that after game 7 when their value was at their highest - had a feeling they would never be able to overcome that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 2:09:08 GMT -5
I am not a Canucks fan. I was so happy when they signed Luongo to that deal, I knew at that point they would never win the cup with him on the team. They came closer than I figured they would. I am not sure what Florida believed they got out of the deal. I guess they presume that Luongo will put asses in seats because they are about as far away from the cup as Vancouver is now.
The next impossible trick will be trying to trade the twins.
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Post by Tbone (Kelowna) on Mar 5, 2014 20:53:21 GMT -5
Yeah, well the twins are basically untradable now with their 7M contracts - why couldn't Gillis wait until he sees how they perform this year before handing it to them - not like he got a big discount or anything. Even if they were playing well it would've been tough to trade them, now they're probably negative value just like Luongo was - unbelievable how they've literally fallen off a cliff - is Tortorella's system responsible or is it simply age and that proverbial cliff that all players go off eventually.
Yeah, think Florida did us a favour here, probably an owner with deep pockets wanting to bring Luongo home and get some stability in goal and put some seats in the stands - they do have lots of good young talent coming up, so they could be a team to contend with soon.
Of course disappointed Kesler and/or Edler didn't get dealt today, though not surprised at all. As usual, Gillis's free use of NTC's bites him again - could go through this again before the draft. But of course us fans are probably dreaming of getting an unrealistic return just like Van's owner may be.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2014 21:26:43 GMT -5
I agree the Sedins are untradeable unless they are willing to play apart or Vancouver is going to again capture a lot of the cap hit. This was already happening, as good as the Sedins are they are best served as a 2nd line because they really can't handle the hard minutes. They were perfect when they were 2nd after Morrison-Naslund-Bertuzzi. What happened is that first line went away and Vancouver never replaced them like they needed to.
Torts doesn't help because Vancouver just doesn't have the personel to play the kind of hockey that Torts likes and Vancouver doesn't have the contract mobility to get him the team that he needs. I can see Kesler, Edler and/or Bieksa being moved at the draft though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 8:38:48 GMT -5
Player who score at the rate the Sedins do are not 2nd line. One bad year and all of a sudden Sedins are second liners? wow. there isn't one team in the league that could afford to play these guys on the second line while maintaining a better first line.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 13:02:16 GMT -5
What I meant is they are better served on the 2nd line. Their style of game really doesn't suit a top line. I agree there isn't any team in the league that could afford to pay them as a 2nd line, that is the start of Vancouvers problems.
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Post by Tbone (Kelowna) on Mar 6, 2014 14:19:30 GMT -5
Lines don't really matter as much as minutes played - in effect Kesler should be the #1C as he plays the toughest minutes in all situations and is probably the most important cog in the team. Look at Pavelski, he constantly moves between lines #1 to 3, but plays tops minutes at the end of the day as he is also an all-situation guy. The problem is paying that much money to guys who are a bit one dimensional like the Sedins, regardless of what line they play on (maybe GM's should really be plugging their players into a fantasy league like ours to determine there true value and give them salaries that are representative of such)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 14:26:20 GMT -5
As a Panther fan my thoughts on bringing in Luongo are positive. Yes Markstrom is a goalie with a lot of potential (and probably will blow up now that Florida traded him)but any move by the management which attempts to make the team more competitive is great. I think fans down here are sick of the constant re-building and want to see seasons more like the one where we won the division a few years back. Luongo is a fan favorite down here and has his wife's family here so I am not suprised he ended up here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2014 18:21:05 GMT -5
What I meant is they are better served on the 2nd line. Their style of game really doesn't suit a top line. I agree there isn't any team in the league that could afford to pay them as a 2nd line, that is the start of Vancouvers problems. There style of game is scoring just like the other 30 NHL clubs 1st lines. If you don't agree, just look at who won the scoring titles the past few years. |
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