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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 16:31:43 GMT -5
The deal was voided and can we please be nice to Roger ? There's no reason for quoting him when he even mention in his last post that he won't be making any more deals while he get familiar with our league. I'm sorry, Frank...I don't know what it is: Maybe you all know each other, maybe...you just sound and write in the same syntax by exposure to one another...but there's a really weird vibe to the over-emphasis, hyper-defensive attitude that feels like...A LOT of effort to sound natural, convincing, whatever, but...For my two cents, I see NOTHING wrong with quoting a GM, new or old, and providing an informed, reasoned opinion like Red Army just did. And you defending Roger by name and he defending you by name, THIS EARLY in what's essentially an introductory period is reading, really, really weird. Nothing that Red Army wrote was "mean"...Like even that's weird, Frank. Weird in that, wait a second way in which you begin to think, what's he talking about? Enough, i’m done with this subject!! If you really want to make sure we aren’t cheating then please Ask Dave for our IP adress. I have nothing to hide, nothing. Now go please vote. You have the time to post in here but you don’t have the time to vote? Hmmm
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Post by Djurgardens on Aug 13, 2021 17:01:39 GMT -5
I'm sorry, Frank...I don't know what it is: Maybe you all know each other, maybe...you just sound and write in the same syntax by exposure to one another...but there's a really weird vibe to the over-emphasis, hyper-defensive attitude that feels like...A LOT of effort to sound natural, convincing, whatever, but...For my two cents, I see NOTHING wrong with quoting a GM, new or old, and providing an informed, reasoned opinion like Red Army just did. And you defending Roger by name and he defending you by name, THIS EARLY in what's essentially an introductory period is reading, really, really weird. Nothing that Red Army wrote was "mean"...Like even that's weird, Frank. Weird in that, wait a second way in which you begin to think, what's he talking about? Enough, i’m done with this subject!! If you really want to make sure we aren’t cheating then please Ask Dave for our IP adress. I have nothing to hide, nothing. Now go please vote. You have the time to post in here but you don’t have the time to vote? HmmmThat's right, Columbo. You caught me. I'm trying to avoid your deals now. It just started. Ignore the ones I've recently voted for. Tell ya what...Give me whatever inflated vet contract you like to consider, and if I like it, I'll add the Frank tax myself, and make sure and specifically say just how much I need it? Cool? By the way, Frank...If you're dealing in another league before your candidate is in the league, I think that's a touch on the preferential side of things, shenanigans notwithstanding. And one more thing...Stop telling people how to respond. Dude...Which way on what topic have you not responded in kind? Like, if it's been done, Frank's done it. Know what I mean? <flicks cigarette to the ground...>
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 17:17:32 GMT -5
What the fuck is he talking about ? This kid is on crack !! I’m in a football league with Roger and Keith . I’ve never ever talk hockey trade with roger until posted his trade block and Keith amd have been in a differeny hockey. Either way this doesn’t concern you.
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Post by Djurgardens on Aug 13, 2021 17:46:17 GMT -5
What the fuck is he talking about ? This kid is on crack !! I’m in a football league with Roger and Keith . I’ve never ever talk hockey trade with roger until posted his trade block and Keith amd have been in a differeny hockey. Either way this doesn’t concern you. But I am also happily bringing in a close friend of mine to the league his name is Augustus Basel we're in the same Courvoisier connoisseurs club he said he likes hockey a lot though. Especially the red cards and the yellow cards and he's a quick study which is nice because I said, I know you are, AB don't worry if you pick up hockey like you do a smooth sifter of cognac, you're golden and a favorite on the spot!!! Augustus wanted me to let you know not to pick on me though because it's none of your business now please stop telling me and definitely don't tell my close friend Auggie for short that we can't talk on hockey make any trades we want or how to love cognac OK, Frank, Cool!?!?!?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 18:20:44 GMT -5
I'm not trying to continue any issues here. But I am me, not frank. Also we like he said we are in a football league together as is Keith and I'm in several with him. Why do we call by name and not team? Because we are fantasy sport friends and delve into other parts of our lives when talking. It's all part of what fantasy sports should be. Fun, friendly competition in leagues where most all are sport friends to some degree. Or at least some sort of comraderie which I hope to develop here with you guys.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 18:26:09 GMT -5
I'm not trying to continue any issues here. But I am me, not frank. Also we like he said we are in a football league together as is Keith and I'm in several with him. Why do we call by name and not team? Because we are fantasy sport friends and delve into other parts of our lives when talking. It's all part of what fantasy sports should be. Fun, friendly competition in leagues where most all are sport friends to some degree. Or at least some sort of comraderie which I hope to develop here with you guys. Correct me if I'm but I believe you're American and currently live in Miami and speak English. While I live in Canada and speak French.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 18:47:33 GMT -5
Actually I live south of Pittsburgh but have talked about my trip to Florida, though was tampa area. And English speaking is correct
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Post by WillyBilly (Tire Fires) on Aug 13, 2021 18:48:10 GMT -5
What the fuck is he talking about ? This kid is on crack !! I’m in a football league with Roger and Keith . I’ve never ever talk hockey trade with roger until posted his trade block and Keith amd have been in a differeny hockey. Either way this doesn’t concern you. But I am also happily bringing in a close friend of mine to the league his name is Augustus Basel we're in the same Courvoisier connoisseurs club he said he likes hockey a lot though. Especially the red cards and the yellow cards and he's a quick study which is nice because I said, I know you are, AB don't worry if you pick up hockey like you do a smooth sifter of cognac, you're golden and a favorite on the spot!!! Augustus wanted me to let you know not to pick on me though because it's none of your business now please stop telling me and definitely don't tell my close friend Auggie for short that we can't talk on hockey make any trades we want or how to love cognac OK, Frank, Cool!?!?!? Bro chill now you're just being antagonistic. At the time of creation 3/4's of the league knew each other I was one of the few that was new, at this point I don't even know what you're on about, so what if he brought a friend from another league here? The previous WAK GM's a friend of mine no one batted an eye, and we've brought multiple people from prior leagues here now with no one crying foul. and why wouldn't they defend each other when they are being attacked(for lack of a better word)?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 18:48:54 GMT -5
I took a french class in high school as a senior elective but that was many many moons ago. Lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 21:00:07 GMT -5
I took a french class in high school as a senior elective but that was many many moons ago. Lol What about Spanish class ?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 21:57:13 GMT -5
I took a french class in high school as a senior elective but that was many many moons ago. Lol What about Spanish class ? Sophomore and Jr years...over 40 yes ago
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 22:29:16 GMT -5
Oh cool!! I didn’t get that chance !!
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Post by Djurgardens on Aug 13, 2021 22:46:20 GMT -5
But I am also happily bringing in a close friend of mine to the league his name is Augustus Basel we're in the same Courvoisier connoisseurs club he said he likes hockey a lot though. Especially the red cards and the yellow cards and he's a quick study which is nice because I said, I know you are, AB don't worry if you pick up hockey like you do a smooth sifter of cognac, you're golden and a favorite on the spot!!! Augustus wanted me to let you know not to pick on me though because it's none of your business now please stop telling me and definitely don't tell my close friend Auggie for short that we can't talk on hockey make any trades we want or how to love cognac OK, Frank, Cool!?!?!? Bro chill now you're just being antagonistic. At the time of creation 3/4's of the league knew each other I was one of the few that was new, at this point I don't even know what you're on about, so what if he brought a friend from another league here? The previous WAK GM's a friend of mine no one batted an eye, and we've brought multiple people from prior leagues here now with no one crying foul. and why wouldn't they defend each other when they are being attacked( for lack of a better word)? Well, we're in agreement to the what...Which speaks to the why... ...If there's an appearance of peculiarity, it SHOULD be inquired into. There is a pattern. I'm not the only one who has noticed it. Specifically to the example of Red Army's post and CGS's post, there's nothing at all that could be construed as being attacked. When legitimate inquiry is characterized as attack, that's when red flags go up. Because if there's plainly no attack, but one is being cited, then there's a motive to characterize legitimate concern as "attack". Usually, in order to prevent further questioning. And if that's the case then you've got to ask yourself the question: why? IF, (1) new GMs are repeatedly the trade partner of one GM, shortly after joining, and then character of the trade is similar (ie undesirable pieces for value going in the same direction), then I think that's cause/pause for concern. (2) If that trading partner has admitted not knowing the sport to a degree of competitive competency and is ALSO a trade partner of that same "timely" GM, then that's the type of pattern or element that -- I think??? -- is cause/pause for concern and certainly, inquiry. Not that it needs to be spelled out, but if any one joins a league with a number of variables to the scoring system, let alone nuance to the sport and claims they don't understand but would like to...then there's legitimate cause to question, isn't there? And (3) if a GM is bringing in others and he's dealing with them in tentative deals before they're joining the league, then that's worthy of like cause/pause as well. And (4) it...is...absolutely...up to each of us to go out of our way to appear truly competitive. And if that means refraining from repeatedly bringing in new GMs and ham-fisting deals in which our undesirables are moved for better than value assets, then that's what any reasonable GM does because we know the value of assets and how hard it is to move them in and amongst ourselves on a regular typically competitive basis. Once that environment appears suspended, questions should arise. So again, to the why...Well...Because if one GM has an unfair advantage outside a competitive competency then it's a skewed playing environment for one rather than a level playing environment for all. Right now, if I say my behavior isn't worthy of questioning, am I right simply because I feel that way? Or is it plain that my behavior has deviated to such a degree that I should answer for it? I think you're 100% in the right to take me to task and should have 100% expectation that I explain and answer for it, because my behavior is so plainly understood as being deviated from my norm and the norm of the league. It's plainly deviated and I should answer for it in a healthy competitive league where standards are valued. And so should anyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 23:24:28 GMT -5
I’ve never ask anyone to join this league with any motive other to fill a spot. So being accused of cheating is a statement that you can not proves since it’s not true. I definitely didn’t bring in Keith so I could trade him Kessel and possibly knowing prehand that he might have like Kessel which this wasn’t the case . I never knew he was a fan of Kessel. i was even surprised when he said he was a fan of Kessel. I did my job as gm and approached him and ask him if he was interested in him. The only advantage i had was the accessibility which is what we are trying to do by adding Discord to this league. My intention was never to help mysel, The only reason I ask them was because Dave Didn’t find a gm. I Rarely ask any of the gm i was with in Slack or discord since most had multiple fantasy leagues and didn’t have the time to join another league. Once i notice the draft was approaching then I finally started asking around and found a few gm’s. How can I know some will trade with me and leave afterwards. I know it’s not a good look but was nothing more then a coincidence. On a side note this is a free league, so what would be my motivation ? I will never stop dealing, everyone can be had at anytime.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2021 23:33:35 GMT -5
The part I don't understand is everyone referencing me as not knowing anything but would like to. I've had and have experience in large leagues and I understand cap and salary and general values. The ONLY things I need to do is know these players without researching some. So will take me time to read about and check contracts of these guys. This is the main thing and is an important part but to say I can't know even now how to rate a player is a bit absurd. I can read about and follow trends of players. Just not usually at 1st glance. The other is scoring system and how many of each can go in weekly lineup but this part is no issue to know it just takes a look into scoring and rules basically. Anyways enough from me as I can't spell this out any clearer again.
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