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Post by Dave (PLK) on Mar 14, 2014 9:42:21 GMT -5
THIS VOTE IS FOR 2014 DRAFT ONLY (we will have another for 2015 and beyond)
Chance of Getting First Pick (Only for 1st Round of Draft, remaining rounds are reverse order of standings)
1st - 27.8%
2nd - 21.2
3rd - 16.3
4th - 12.3
5th - 8.9
6th - 6.4
7th - 4.3
8th - 2.8
-ie. 5th place wins lottery, he moves up to first, the 4 above him all move down 1 spot, 6th, 7th, 8th remain the same
please vote, and post your opinion if you want.
(we will have a 2nd vote, when this one is closed, for 2015 and beyond)
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Post by Tbone (Kelowna) on Mar 14, 2014 10:24:48 GMT -5
Just to clarify, option 3 is just the 8 teams in our league not making the playoffs?
Do like the weighted lottery format so would like to go with option 3 - but not sure if there was any assumption already that it was going to be reverse order of standings going in - if there was by some of the key folks impacted (like Canners who has 2 top 3 picks - particularly if he made his Kopitar trade assuming it was going to be a guaranteed top 3) - than would probably be better to stick to reverse just for this season and then start the weighted lottery next season.
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Post by Dave (PLK) on Mar 14, 2014 10:35:59 GMT -5
oops...shit
let's just make it
no
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8 teams not making our playoffs
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Post by Dave (PLK) on Mar 14, 2014 10:41:17 GMT -5
We hadn't discussed it, so I don't believe there was any assumption of the order.
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Post by Tbone (Kelowna) on Mar 14, 2014 11:04:03 GMT -5
What's the weighting rules? For 2013, the NHL had for the 14 non-playoff teams: 1 - 25% 2 - 18.8 3 - 14.2 4 - 10.7 5 - 8.1 6 - 6.2 7 - 4.7 8 - 3.6 9 - 2.7 10 - 2.1 11 - 1.5 12 - 1.1 13 - 0.8 14 - 0.5 Here's a site that does %'s and weighting: www.fantasydraftlottery.com/InputRanks.aspxwith the following default weightings which seems fair (though can customize): 1st - 27.8% 2nd - 21.2 3rd - 16.3 4th - 12.3 5th - 8.9 6th - 6.4 7th - 4.3 8th - 2.8 Also, did we want any rules on the maximum # spots one can rise or drop? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 11:58:17 GMT -5
To be fair to the bottom dwellers who followed the previous league rule that there was no lottery, there should be no lottery this off season.
Seriously guys, we can't keep changing rules mid stream. GMs make team decisions based on what the rules say.
However, I do like this idea and it should be implemented in the 2015 entry draft.
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Post by Dave (PLK) on Mar 14, 2014 12:00:36 GMT -5
What's the weighting rules? For 2013, the NHL had for the 14 non-playoff teams: 1 - 25% 2 - 18.8 3 - 14.2 4 - 10.7 5 - 8.1 6 - 6.2 7 - 4.7 8 - 3.6 9 - 2.7 10 - 2.1 11 - 1.5 12 - 1.1 13 - 0.8 14 - 0.5 Here's a site that does %'s and weighting: www.fantasydraftlottery.com/InputRanks.aspxwith the following default weightings which seems fair (though can customize): 1st - 27.8% 2nd - 21.2 3rd - 16.3 4th - 12.3 5th - 8.9 6th - 6.4 7th - 4.3 8th - 2.8 Also, did we want any rules on the maximum # spots one can rise or drop? I used the percentages for the 8 teams as listed above.... Ran the program and saved the screenshots. I will post them when the results of the poll are in. |
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Post by Dave (PLK) on Mar 14, 2014 12:04:46 GMT -5
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Post by Dave (PLK) on Mar 14, 2014 12:10:18 GMT -5
To be fair to the bottom dwellers who followed the previous league rule that there was no lottery, there should be no lottery this off season. Seriously guys, we can't keep changing rules mid stream. GMs make team decisions based on what the rules say. However, I do like this idea and it should be implemented in the 2015 entry draft. Sent from my SGH-T999 using proboards We aren't changing the rules. We didn't establish what we were doing for 2014. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 12:18:21 GMT -5
you can't make this change happen for any entry drafts where any of the 1st round picks have been traded. These are the kinds of rules, imo, that you need to decide when all teams have equal amount of planning to make decisions upon.
The weight for the last place team should be maybe slightly higher in percent, considering it is 8 teams, not the NHL's 14. also a rule they have (though I think they may be looking to get rid of) is that only the bottom 5 teams can have a shot for the #1 over-all. That might be something to consider.
I am generally in favor of a lottery as we should not be encouraging teams to tank, that said in the last decade or so with the improvements in scouting it is pretty hard to go wrong with a top 5 pick. Gauging how great of an NHL player an 18 year old is going to become is still not easy but these kids that have the potential for the NHL are being groomed at like 13.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 12:19:17 GMT -5
We hadn't discussed it, so I don't believe there was any assumption of the order. Of course there was an assumption of order. |
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Post by Dave (PLK) on Mar 14, 2014 12:24:26 GMT -5
...so vote NO
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2014 12:26:16 GMT -5
you asked us to offer our opinions so we can have a discussion, was that only rhetoric?
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Post by Dave (PLK) on Mar 14, 2014 12:28:57 GMT -5
not at all, I want your opinions, but I also want votes....
the most a team can move down is one spot, so it's not THAT big a deal.
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Post by Dave (PLK) on Mar 14, 2014 12:29:45 GMT -5
and in the nhl, since last year, all 14 teams have a shot at first overall, so here it would be all 8....
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