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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 15:40:07 GMT -5
Why you think I wasn't in a hurry near the end of the draft. I prefer seeing the targ t play and wait out hours or a day to make a more inform pick. I do agree it's kind of cheating but still permitted to make your selection late. Exactly. At this point, it's considered strategy, but I think moving forward we need to make a change. We want our top waiver picks holding the most value. I Suggest bumping back the start of the waiver draft another week or so, or if others prefer let's finish the waiver draft before training camp starts. Maybe let's have a vote?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 15:49:48 GMT -5
Why you think I wasn't in a hurry near the end of the draft. I prefer seeing the targ t play and wait out hours or a day to make a more inform pick. I do agree it's kind of cheating but still permitted to make your selection late. Exactly. At this point, it's considered strategy, but I think moving forward we need to make a change. We want our top waiver picks holding the most value. I Suggest bumping back the start of the waiver draft another week or so, or if others prefer let's finish the waiver draft before training camp starts. Maybe let's have a vote? I would prefer starting the draft one week before the first nhl game. This way we increase the value of the top picks in this draft by giving us a better idea of who might crack the line up or not.
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Post by Djurgardens on Sept 26, 2018 16:26:41 GMT -5
Kelowna selected Tanner Lacyznski very late in the draft. That's a 4W pick with 1W value that had nothing to do with progress in camp and everything to do with due dilligence. I didn't even think to look for that player with the (reasonable) presumption that surely he would have been stocked away on somebody's club. Great pick, whatever the end result is, by the GM.
I say this in admiration of due dilligence exercised over and above the appearance recency bias sometimes provides. Training camps can certainly highlight a player's worth. Within my own selections, that's precisely the case with Juuso Riikloa. He was a player on my list, but outside the top ten, and with his play in pre-season, presented an opportunity to good not to expend a couple of picks on. But admittedly, it's still an instance in which recency bias might come back to bite.
It's perfectly sound reasoning to suggest that moving the Waiver Draft COULD help advise selections because of pre-season progress and/or regress. BUT, it's equally reasonable to note the many examples of mining quality players over and above the instances of pre-season accomplishments as a result of due diligence with respect to availability (ie Lacyznksi) or discreet scouting with information that was available pre-draft (ie Jesper Bratt) or simple hunches that end up working out but again, without the need of waiting for pre-season performances (ie Sami Niku).
Just wanted to put it out there that due dilligence trumps recency bias every time and we all have equal access to it before the first puck of pre-season is ever dropped. This to say, the importance of positioning the Waiver Draft isn't nearly as important as the gathering of information prior to it's scheduled start.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 17:21:06 GMT -5
Kelowna selected Tanner Lacyznski very late in the draft. That's a 4W pick with 1W value that had nothing to do with progress in camp and everything to do with due dilligence. I didn't even think to look for that player with the (reasonable) presumption that surely he would have been stocked away on somebody's club. Great pick, whatever the end result is, by the GM. I say this in admiration of due dilligence exercised over and above the appearance recency bias sometimes provides. Training camps can certainly highlight a player's worth. Within my own selections, that's precisely the case with Juuso Riikloa. He was a player on my list, but outside the top ten, and with his play in pre-season, presented an opportunity to good not to expend a couple of picks on. But admittedly, it's still an instance in which recency bias might come back to bite. It's perfectly sound reasoning to suggest that moving the Waiver Draft COULD help advise selections because of pre-season progress and/or regress. BUT, it's equally reasonable to note the many examples of mining quality players over and above the instances of pre-season accomplishments as a result of due diligence with respect to availability (ie Lacyznksi) or discreet scouting with information that was available pre-draft (ie Jesper Bratt) or simple hunches that end up working out but again, without the need of waiting for pre-season performances (ie Sami Niku). Just wanted to put it out there that due dilligence trumps recency bias every time and we all have equal access to it before the first puck of pre-season is ever dropped. This to say, the importance of positioning the Waiver Draft isn't nearly as important as the gathering of information prior to it's scheduled start. Agreed rescheduling the waiver draft has nothing to do with due diligence on player research. Each GM has to do the research one way or the other. Its about placing the waiver draft in the most effective timelsot giving us the best information available for our selections. That's why we have the entry draft right after the NHL draft. I know some fantasy leagues prefer to complete entry drafts beforehand, but our league is not like that. It would be consistent for us the move the waiver draft back to end it with the start of the season. On a side note - Riiiikola is a great example of a player that would have went higher in the draft had we waited a couple weeks. Nice pick up! I wonder if he makes the Pens.
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Post by WillyBilly (Tire Fires) on Sept 26, 2018 20:47:48 GMT -5
I'm ok with either.
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